Nicereddy 109 Share Posted October 13, 2013 AKA Local Co-op or split screen. Since playing games with controllers is getting more common and gaming on the TV is also getting more popular I think it'd be a good idea to add this. It could probably go into Video settings (maybe?) and would work like the Oculus setting. Only there if true/hackable. A few games I know support this feature: Portal 2, Left 4 Dead 2 (I believe this requires a hack), Jamestown, Borderlands (hack), Borderlands 2 (hack). Steam also has a list of games with "Local Co-op". Also, some relevant reddit threads: 1 2 Any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicereddy 109 Author Share Posted October 13, 2013 I made a reddit thread with all the local co-op games I could find. I guess we'll see if anyone adds to that. I look forward to this addition, thanks Soeb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDK 9 Share Posted October 13, 2013 There is already a site that maps cooperative games: http://www.co-optimus.com/system/4/pc.html Garrett 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andytizer 269 Share Posted October 13, 2013 There are some cases that a single player game may need ports opening - this would be the case for certain types of DRM or launchers or patchers. Definitely a discrete area just for this - ==Network settings== seems appropriate. There are lots of situations/settings we may need to cater for, e.g. Network ports - simply list port range Online multiplayer - true/false/hackable - hackable: might have closed master servers, but someone has hacked in a community service, e.g. Supreme Commander and Forged Alliance Forever LAN Split screen Shared screen Keyboard and controller support - e.g. Jamestown you can mix and match kb, m and controller for 4 player local co-op. In Dungeon Siege 3, if you plug in a controller you cannot use kb for 2nd player, you must use a 2nd controller. There are loads of variables and expceiotns so I'm not sure how to quantify some of these ideas into a simple table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicereddy 109 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 I think having the categories Andy suggested plus just an extra "Notes" row at the bottom may be a good way of cleaning up the potential mess the template could become. If something becomes commonly mentioned in the Notes row we could discuss adding it as an official row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andytizer 269 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Well, the field underneath that 2nd level header serves as a general 'notes' area. Fantastic work on this so far Nicereddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicereddy 109 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 I crossposted the thread to /r/Games and received a ton of upvotes and responses, so the post was updated to a table. Here's the /r/Games post if anyone wants/needs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett 212 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I crossposted the thread to /r/Games and received a ton of upvotes and responses, so the post was updated to a table. Here's the /r/Games post if anyone wants/needs it. Are you still planning to migrate this to Big List form on the wiki? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirh 102 Share Posted October 15, 2013 this thing seems a nice addition to the wikia actually, i tweaked nearly a week l4d before solving all the possible splitscreen issue whenever i had the time i could write a guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicereddy 109 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Are you still planning to migrate this to Big List form on the wiki? Yep, I'll probably do it later today if I find time. I'm also going to add a row for amount of players, anything else you think would be helpful to add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andytizer 269 Share Posted October 15, 2013 this thing seems a nice addition to the wikia actually, i tweaked nearly a week l4d before solving all the possible splitscreen issue whenever i had the time i could write a guide Hey - we ain't wikia :D. Nicereddy and Mirh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicereddy 109 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Since there's clearly a huge amount of interest in this, I think we may want to make this a Project page. I'm obviously up for heading the project. Just trying to figure out what to name said project. The Big List of Local Multiplayer Games The Big List of Couch Co-op Games etc. Thoughts on a good name for this? I think Local Multiplayer does a pretty good job of encompassing all possible meanings (versus, co-op, etc.) but it could be mistaken for LAN games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett 212 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Local can definitely imply LAN play and co-op would also have to be avoided since that excludes competitive games. Split-screen conflicts with shared-screen and hotseat implementations. Couch doesn't really mean anything in this context. The end result would be something like The Big List of Single-Screen Multiplayer Games (or Same-Screen?); Single-PC/Same-PC is also an option but I don't think that sounds as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicereddy 109 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 The unfortunate thing about that is a lot of commenters on the reddit thread wanted to see if they could do this with a multi-monitor setup as I imagine that'd be more convenient for multiplayer, but Same-PC definitely doesn't sound as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andytizer 269 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'm not sure about the naming convention - what do you guys think? From a 'marketing' standpoint - The Big List of ... is quite catchy. However if we go down the route of having large numbers of them then it might get a bit cumbersome. Perhaps we can standardise the naming conventions and styling (using sentence vs title case), e.g. List of 3rd party DRM on Steam, List of low-end games, GOG.com enhancement project, etc. It would also be nice to have an infobox of some kind to link these projects together. I like using infoboxes to do this as I think it makes more sense, whilst the normal convention on Wikipedia is to use a template at the foot of the page. Should we create a float:right 'seriesbox' type thing just for projects? Also whilst other projects like the Steam DRM list relies heavily on manual editing, these new lists could be generated using SMW once the templates are completed. So be aware that if you hand create these lists we may be replacing them with SMW lists in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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