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I specifically registered on this forum to ask to specify in the "Network" / "Multiplayer types" block / table the presence of Steam Remote Play Together (RPT) in the game. Currently, there are three modes specified there: "Local play" (incl. hotseat), "LAN play" (incl. serial connection) and "Online play". When "Nucleus Co-op" is specified as a special case of "Local play", it is fair, because from the user's point of view it is "Local play" regardless of what the mode was originally and how exactly it was implemented. Similarly, it seems to me that since RPT requires online, it is logical to specify it in the notes field of the "Online play" line (despite the fact that after establishing a connection between users, data can only be transmitted over a local network).
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I consider pcgamingwiki.com to be one of the most comprehensive repositories of technical data on video games. And, at the same time, PCGW is one of the most difficult to find games that meet certain criteria. Especially when compared to Steam search with additional capabilities provided by the Augmented Steam and SteamDB browser extensions. Moreover, external wiki search is useless, because the mere mention of some feature on the page does not mean its presence in the game, since it is only a field header in a table, for which an arbitrary value can be set as an icon. I understand that technically a wiki is just a set of text files united by links. This makes it very accessible for editing, mass, but, unlike database-based systems, makes it very limited for research. I propose to create a task and formulate a technical task for it to expand the wiki with the ability to flexibly search for games by parameters, using inclusion and exclusion filters. Probably, this will require setting up regular parsing of updated pages. And here the established practice of using templates for pages will greatly help us out. To start, it is enough to include several of the most popular parameters in the search, adding others over time. Alternatively, you can allow users to search by parameters that are currently unavailable in Steam. For example, the presence of a DRM-free option, Multi-monitor, Subtitles, separate search by GUI language, audio and subtitles. Similar issues were discussed earlier in the topic "Template:Feature - Transition over from semantic search to pages with the embedded query", which is now locked.
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Would it make sense to add date of original console / other platform releases in the infobox, for games that were only released on PC later? For example, it is quite weird to only see the release date 2021 for Final Fantasy 1, since that game was originally released in 1987 and is a well-known classic, but in our series box and infobox we now place it near the bottom of the FF games since the Steam / PC port only came out in 2021.
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proposal Proposal: "Debloated" Installs (Remove unused files)
EVERGREEN posted a topic in Development
Today more than ever, (fast) storage space is expensive. One thing that always makes me mad is the insane amount of unused Localizations, game modes (often dead/closed multiplayer modes) that are installed by default - this is literally dead content. Wasted storage. Wasted money. Now back in ye old days, it used to be a gigabyte at best. Not the end of the world, and not exactly worth the time investment. But old habits die hard, and I'm still doing it today. With games becoming larger and larger, storage has become an issue that can thankfully be alleviated. I'm going to list a few interesting examples, then propose a solution and finally suggest a way to integrate it to PCGW's structure. I'll also list a couple of issues with my proposal, potential flaws and uses cases etc. If you have a better idea or any suggestion to make this a thing, you're more than welcome. Please note that all the numbers given are taken from Steam, but GoG, Uplay, EGS & Origin are guilty of the very same thing. Uplay's even worse, as always. Any constructive feedback would be much appreciated - I never suggested a feature before, but this one has been on the back of my mind for at least a year. I feel like it could be very useful to many folks out there. So, let's get to it. Those are easy ones to "clean-up" (more on that later): Batman Arkham Origins. Had a multiplayer mode, servers are down. Delete one folder and the install size goes from 27.06Gb to 18.1Gb. 9Gb (33%) saved Final Fantasy XIII. Well documented, check the PCGW entry for it, you can remove ~20Gb if you don't want the Japanese audio. 57.6Gb to 37.7Gb. 19.9Gb (52%) saved (!!!) Doom 2016. Do you really play the MP or Snapmap modes? That's ~15Gb (11Gb if you only delete the MP) saved. From 69.68Gb to 54.68Gb. 15Gb (21.5%) saved Here's the problem. I can manually delete all localizations, "deluxe edition content", Readme/Support and redists safely from most MT_Framework, UE3 and Ubi games just fine because they use the same naming conventions. All I have to do is search in the root folder for any file with the _ita. suffix for instance and delete it - but that's because I know what I'm doing and I'm willing to take the time to locate and delete those files. Listing that would massively bloat any page of course, and not many users would do it anyways. The best way I can think of to implement a reliable and simple method to delete files that we're absolutely sure are safe to delete goes something like this: Add a "debloatable" boolean to the Other Information infobox, If True, how much can be shaved-off at best. Users like myself could build a database of games we know we can "shave" (much like SK/ReShade compat, with a dedicated page) The end user would download a batch file, hosted here and verified by members based on a template which would include one option for each localization, and a "clean-up" option (remove Readme, Deluxe content, redists if safe) So for instance, I can flag all the localization for Resident Evil 6 and write them down in the dedicated page. I don't have any experience making modular batch files like that however, so someone else would have to make a template. I can then edit that batch to point it to all the files we want to delete. The end user launches the batch file, delete all locales but the one he's/she's using and boom. That's money saved right there. I know there are programs that are much better than Win Explorer's Search feature - if we can feed such a program with a config file it should do the trick too. We'd still need to build a database though. I do realize that I make it sound much easier than it may be, or that it may sound overkill if we're talking about a Gb at best. But for extreme cases like Doom 2016, Far Cry 3/4, FF XIII, the Arkham series, The Evil Within - huge games basically, it would be very helpful and hey, I'm already doing it anyways so might as well share it. There's also games like Battlefront 2 (2005) where you can cut the install size in half. It's about 5Gb (vanilla) if memory serves, about 2-3Gb when cleaned. With that said, if anything I hope that this thread at least brings more attention to this issue. Last but not least, to everyone: Happy holidays! I hope you're all doing well, and ready for more PCGW grunt work for this year to come. "Keep on keeping on". -
This wiki provides lots of info on patches, fixes and ways to tune the game to work on pc. But as someone who plays kb+m, it's difficult to find ways to tell if a ported game managed to convert controller prompts to kb+m equivalents. Any chance we could add this information to wiki's for games ported to pc?
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I've had the idea that the infoboxes should somewhere contain information about a game's save system, since there are a lot of different ways games handle it: - Roguelikes (dying completely resets you, but you retain certain benefits) - Hardcore-modes where dying deletes your savegame, e.g. "Trial of Iron" mode in Pillars of Eternity 2 - Only at the start of each level, e.g. Freespace 2 - Only checkpoint / autosave, e.g. most modern shooters - Checkpoints that can be manually activated several times, e.g. Resident Evil typewriters or sleeping in Kingdom Come: Deliverance - Bonfire-system, e.g. Dark Souls (like above, but respawns all enemies) - Free, manual saving (and whether it also allows in combat + how many available save slots) - "Free" saving that still resets you to checkpoints, e.g. Tomb Raider: Legend - Manual saving, but at a cost, e.g. Kingdom Come: Deliverance (consumes alcohol) - Quicksaves - Special savegame shenanigans (e.g. message if you save too often in Metal Gear Solid 1, deleting your savegames if you die too often in Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice, voluntary savegame deletion in Nier and Nier: Automata...) - Whether it allows to select individual chapters to replay, e.g. Syndicate (2012) and Condemned: Criminal Origins What do you think about this feature? For me personally, not being able to save freely is almost disqualifying for a game, so I always want to know such information. And it often changes even inside a franchise (e.g. FEAR 1 has manual saving, 2 and 3 only have checkpoints; Splinter Cell 1-4 allow manual saves and quicksaves, 5 and 6 only have checkpoints; Call of Juarez 1+2 has quicksaves, 3+4 only has checkpoints; etc.), so even if you like the previous installment you can't be sure if the next game works the same when you want to buy it. This information could be included in the infobox below the "save game location" info. It could just be simplified into a simple checkbox whether the game allows manual saves or not, and a "Notes" field with additional information (e.g. the things I listed above, how many save slots etc.). This way it wouldn't be cluttered, you just have a simple "Manual Saves?" checkbox next to the save location, and if there is any additional custom information, it can be written into the Notes field. What do you think about that?
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Proposal to show support of Steam Family Sharing on the Wiki pages, as some games do not support Steam Family Sharing (this is the most recent list I could find) and this could be useful information to be recorded.
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This is follow on from my post on the Special K Steam Discussions, but expanded to include other third party tools such as Re:shade. Link to Steam Discussion thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1157970/discussions/0/2650881941771332222/ Reply from: @Aemony
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Reviews are a very important part of 'discovery' of what game to play. How much more useful would our lists be if we could filter or sort by Metacritic score? Metacritic includes the Critic score which tends to be fairly static after release. There is also the User Score which tends to fluctuate a lot, even years after release, or is subject to review bombing. I would be happy to include both. Potentially, Metacritic scores would sit inside the Infobox, with a link directly to the relevant Metacritic page. The values themselves could be gleaned from Wikidata, or another automated method, or could be entered manually. I am also open to alternative review aggregators and am open to suggestions.
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Proposal to remove wikis from General information and the Editing guide. Wikis were included because generally speaking there was 'the one' wiki everyone used. However with the advent of massive wikifarms, a single game could have several wikis associated with it. Problems: Inconsistencies with 'community wiki' / 'official wiki' terminology - meaningless as all wikis are community wikis Wikis don't offer technical information If a wiki contains a good technical page, this could be linked to separately Proposed solution: Remove any game wikis from General information Time limit: 7 days (14th June 2019)
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In the beginning, PCGamingWiki shied away from including classification of games because we were focused only on fixes - we weren't interested if a game was a 'third person shooter' or a 'first person shooter' - we just wanted FOV fixes, widescreen fixes, etc. However I think things could be improved - taking a queue from Wikipedia: Modes: Firstly with the way the tables work, some genres don't require 'FOV' fixes for example 2D games. Or an 90s adventure game doesn't need an 'Inverted Y-Axis' option etc. A mode property would allow us to restrict certain tables so that this makes more sense. This would include things like: VR, 2D, 3D, 1st person, 3rd person, touchscreen, VR etc. Furthermore, in the future we could use this to categorise other features like microtransactions, lootboxes etc. Genres: Genres are a great way of listing games. We could make lists of Puzzle games on Uplay, RPGs fan translated into Russian, etc. How great would it be to see all the Local co-op games that are 2D rather than 3D (my wife can't play 3D games as she gets motion sick!). In terms of implementation, this could sit in the proposed Overview section as well as the Infobox itself.
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Support for batch uploads could improve the speed of which users upload multiple screenshots for use in the articles. This seems at first glance as a relative easy feature to implement, as the functionality is already provided through extensions to MediaWiki: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Bulk_upload Possible concerns: How does this relate to the new backend for images and thumbnails? Does the extension need to have support to make use of the DigitalOcean Space? A few months ago when I tried to do something similar using multiple tabs I would often hit an error similar to a 429, Too many requests, and have a few of the uploads cancelled until I let the current ones finish. Is this something that would occur, and if so, do we need to increase the number of allowed connections per user on the backend?
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This seems like an important setting, especially with the prominence of high-PPI UHD monitors. True: Has option to change scaling settings. May or may not automatically scale based on selected resolution. Example: SWTOR Always on: Is automatically scaled based on resolution, but has no manual setting. Example: Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga Limited: Only scales certain elements (ex: graphics but not text), or cannot be scaled beyond a certain percentage of the base resolution. Example: Half-Life 2 False: Is not scaled and does not have an option to scale. Can't think of an example off the top of my head. Hackable: Hackable. Example: Quake This could go in the video settings table, or it could go in a potential accessibility table. I think probably wait until a dedicated accessibility table is made and put any info in 4K for now.
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Example of where it would be useful: https://pcgamingwiki.com/w/index.php?title=The_Elder_Scrolls_III%3A_Morrowind&type=revision&diff=716310&oldid=716303