Garrett 214 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 I've now posted the template (as Template:Path, or Template:P for shorter in-page use) and updated a few pages to use it. The game data page still needs to be made, of course, but it's otherwise working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicereddy 109 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Since we're moving forward with this I'd like to bring up the {{DefaultFileLocation}} template idea again. I think this is incredibly important for users to know as most wouldn't have moved the default installation location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirh 103 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Since we're moving forward with this I'd like to bring up the {{DefaultFileLocation}} template idea again. I think this is incredibly important for users to know as most wouldn't have moved the default installation location. In my opinion this would be a redundant thing: 99% of the times the game is installed in the program files (or Steam) folder Thus, if you are so newbie you don't remember/don't find the actual game installation folder... probably you would be so newbie you won't be able to edit a file with the notepad It doesn't seem enough serious for a Wiki like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachasme 0 Share Posted January 5, 2014 [...] 99% of the times the game is installed in the program files (or Steam) folder [...] While this holds true for newer games, many old retail games default to an uncommon root directory—as do a few new games, like Leauge of Legends. Furthermore, non-Steam games installed to Program Files may be nested in a directory corresponding either to it's developer or publisher, something that is becoming more relevant as the amount of direct-download DRM-free games increase. Anyway I do agree that for most games this information will be redundant, since most digital distributors stick to a single directory structure, but IMHO it would still be helpful to provide this information for games with odd defaults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachasme 0 Share Posted January 5, 2014 A compromise that avoids listing common directories (e.g. steamapps and gog games) but still provides uncommon default install locations could look something like this edit: oops—sorry about the double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirh 103 Share Posted January 5, 2014 What i would like to point out is that finding the folder where the game is installed, it's not such a research like it would be spotting the correct registry keys or the right offset to hex edit If you understand what i mean.. You just need to right click the game shortcut and select "Open file path" That's why default game location.. feel too "dumb" imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett 214 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 A game's installation folder can be reached in a couple of clicks so it isn't necessary to list the paths on every page--once you know the concepts they can be carried over to every game using that type of storage. The game data page will cover all of this; I've added some very basic details to it now. Mirh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirh 103 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Would be possible to perform a check on the useragent string to show %USERPROFILE%\Documents instead of %USERPROFILE%\My Documents when WindowsNTversion > 5.2? and why not, maybe a check on the 32/64 bit identifier? (in this way we would solve for example HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432node redundancy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett 214 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 That could be done, but XP's end of support is fast approaching (April 8, 2014), by which point it is of lesser importance. Paths used on pages should be written for Vista and newer, include Wow6432Node when applicable but omit VirtualStore. If XP saves in a completely different folder that can be noted below the table as needed. The game data page will eventually cover all the minor differences. I've added some of that now. Mirh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirh 103 Share Posted April 11, 2014 How would we have to handle relative paths, when talking of programs like steam or the ubisoft game launcher? I mean.. if the game stores savegames in Steam/userdata/..etc.. or programfilesx86/ubisoftgamelauncher/blablabla I don't really like the actual solution to use absolute paths ps. 100 posts hurray :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett 214 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 Current pages use the default installation folder name as the start of the path (e.g. Steam\userdata\{{p|uid}}\238010\remote\). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirh 103 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Current pages use the default installation folder name as the start of the path (e.g. Steam\userdata\{{p|uid}}\238010\remote\). Yes I know But I'd like something more noob-proof. Something like special thing like {{p|steam}} or {{p|ubisoft}}, where you could have rollover poupup Or even more dynamically, making the template (is this the right name for that?) multifunction. I mean, you use {{p|XXXX}} and the tips says path-to-XXXX, without predefined variables Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Share Posted May 8, 2014 Would it be possible if tooltips were to be added for things like %APPDATA%, %USERPROFILE% and stuff like that explaning to users that they can simply copy and paste that the whole path which is followed by that directly instead of having to manualy finding the needed folders or manualy writing the whole thing to find it which some might not otherwise realize initialy. Edit: muh grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett 214 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 I have updated Template:Path to support the common Windows environmental variables (omit % when using the template). I haven't added the OS X/Linux ~/ since I'm not sure what quick access method works for both operating systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirh 103 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Change %programdata% to %ALLUSERSPROFILE%, so windows XP is supported too Anyway, I was wondering how could we best remove all those repetitive paths that load fixboxes... I mean, I found it's burdening to repeat ten times %USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Games\Bioware\Mass Effect\Config, or every other configuration path So, I was starting to simply link #Configuration files location to fileini.ini In the past I even did something like this Newbier this way would have to simply click on the .ini name, whilst power users would already know where to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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