Collapsing additional stores in availability table

[Garrett 214]

Andytizer has suggested having the smaller stores hidden in an expanding section to reduce the visible length of this section. The main list would show the official/publisher/developer site along with Gamesplanet, GOG.com, Origin, Steam, and Uplay.

 

I have made an example implementation of this at User:Garrett/Availability/sandbox.

 

Row usage is the same for both sections. This implementation is fully backwards compatible.

[Mirh 103]

Shouldn't we have a kind of criteria for what makes a store minor or major?

[Mirh 103]

How many key are sold seems a good criteria tbh.

Where did you get the data?

[Blackbird 54]

So will this actually detect the amount of stores. Otherwise games like Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance or The Legend of Korra would only show Steam (based on what Soeb said) which would be stupid since it's just 5 and 4 entries.

It will also cut into whatever profits PCGW gets off the affiliate links since less people will bother to click on the Additional stores

 

If anything, localization table needs this, because this is ridiculous

[Guest]

If anything, localization table needs this, because this is ridiculous

That would be way more useful, I thought this change was kinda, not great.

[Garrett 214]

I'm assuming you'd be able to filter this out using your bot, to adjust existing pages, plus anything that comes up while users adjust to the new format? Might be hard to get this done otherwise with the ~5000 pages we now have. (also wow, we are getting very close to that number!)

I don't currently have a way of checking for this but I can figure something out.

 

So will this actually detect the amount of stores. Otherwise games like Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance or The Legend of Korra would only show Steam (based on what Soeb said) which would be stupid since it's just 5 and 4 entries.

It will also cut into whatever profits PCGW gets off the affiliate links since less people will bother to click on the Additional stores

 

This is done manually, so pages with only a few stores could remain as-is.

[Blackbird 54]

If it's done manually then it needs to be added to Editing Guide ASAP with the change itself stating min/max when to use it, otherwise smartasses will add it to pages I mentioned thinking it's supposed to be used globally.

"Oh new thing. Let's add it everywhere lol xD"

[Mirh 103]

Ehrm.. Another thing I'd like to discuss: where should I note the DRM used in no longer sold games?

For example Battlefield 2 and Mafia.

[Guest]

Ehrm.. Another thing I'd like to discuss: where should I note the DRM used in no longer sold games?

For example Battlefield 2 and Mafia.

 

For a specifc storefront, use the notes. For all versions, put an {{ii}} below the Availability table? Would that work or is it bad?

[Mirh 103]

For a specifc storefront, use the notes.

Yes, but the point is: what about those games no longer sold on X shop, thus not being available?

 

 

Also, I'd welcome Garrett to showcase how new DRM template would work when retail (that we treat as single edition) has multiple DRM for region.

 

[Guest]

Yes, but the point is: what about those games no longer sold on X shop, thus not being available?

 

 

Also, I'd welcome Garrett to showcase how new DRM template would work when retail (that we treat as single edition) has multiple DRM for region.

 

 

Say that unpatched or normal retail versions have X DRM? Something like that?

[Mirh 103]

Perhaps you didn't get the fact that not-available-anymore-stores are removed from Availability table.

http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Battlefield_2#Availability

http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Mafia:_The_City_of_Lost_Heaven#Availability

[Guest]

TL: Show DRM for games not sold on specific storefronts separately from the availability table.

 

TL;DR: Would a separate table for games which are no longer sold work? The "Not Available Table" something?

 

1. Separate Available games from Unavailable games.
2. Show what DRM a game uses on a specific store.
3. Show that it is no longer being sold.

 

EX: (Battlefield 2 on Steam, no longer sold, uses X DRM, separate from the Availability table)

Something like that?

[Guest]

The DLC table but with this stuff. Would you like this?

[Mirh 103]

So.. I dunno if there are any software for this, but I hope good old ASCII art will help.

The epiphany was realizing retail shouldn't be treated any special than digital. They are still sold in stores and whatnot. And for older games they are the very definition of "unavailable"

                                                    ↗ Edition --> OS, key
        Different regions -> DRM and possible notes
      ↗                                             ↘ Edition --> OS, key
Store 
      ↘                                             ↗ Edition --> OS, key
        Different regions -> DRM and possible notes
                                                    ↘ Edition --> OS, key

Retail and/or abandoned then being just simple proprieties that applies to *editions* (for as much, with no clue at all about shops, one might still consider "Retail" as a store too)

 

Collapsing should instead be reserved to hiding no longer available stuff, kind of hijacking the issue mentioned in this thread.

To solve clutter.. I dunno: an idea could be to just show # stores ordered by importance we'll assign them. Once you exceed that number they aren't displayed anymore.

Another idea instead, could be to have the the "collapsed table" be divided in additional minor stores and "deprecated" stores, similar to here.

 

Before discussing.. How in the damn hell to implement such monstrosities though.. I'd like somebody to stop thinking whether I missed something or not.