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Funkerwolf

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    Funkerwolf got a reaction from Blackbird in Sound and Windows 10   
    Its lol. 16 bit mode should not be used as it adds noise (dither) for smoothing (quantization feature associated with to reproduce a material of lower bit depth on a higher bit depth of the sound card).  Try it yourself to listen to something trite in the 16-bit sound card mode and in 24-bit (but this does not apply to the source of the sound, music or other recordings there ... ). In moments of pause and transition from silence to loud sounds, there will be such background noise similar to telephone.  Specifically now, of course, I already have no opportunity to retest this all again. But I think the other day I will repeat the experiments with another laptop. In general, for the purity of the experiment, I would put windows 7 on my PC, where xonar dx is installed, but it’s hard to install this rudimentary on current platforms (kaby lake). Of course, deviations are possible that the drivers have some kind of fixes for the seven and other magic, but in my case the drivers were the same everywhere with the same conditions.
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    Funkerwolf reacted to Suicide machine in Sound and Windows 10   
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    Just let Windows 7 die in peace with it having pretty much a killdate set up... since it's pretty much the only way Microsoft can "convince" people nowadays.
    Even if it's all true, difference is really not that "huge" and making a note "upgrade to Windows 10" is not a solution, either.
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    Funkerwolf got a reaction from Blackbird in Sound and Windows 10   
    Sorry for the long answer, we had a problem with the input to the forum from another place, but not the essence.  Just say this: the more direct the frequency response line and the lower the noise value with the mixing of stereo channels, and with less distortion the better. And here you do not need to be an audiophile to understand this, and even more so to feel, it will be noticeable immediately when comparing the two systems in real life by ear. And unfortunately, this situation will occur with any sound card.
       
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    Funkerwolf got a reaction from Blackbird in Sound and Windows 10   
    Hello everyone again, after some time after the publication of the comparison tests for sound quality in Windows 7 and 10, this laptop returned to me again and I decided to conduct better tests that finally show a significant difference.   Used soft: RightMark Audio Analyzer   See for yourself:  
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    Funkerwolf got a reaction from Blackbird in Sound and Windows 10   
    Hello everyone, I would like to clarify why my editing in the article on sound is constantly canceled?
    https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Glossary:Sound
     
     
     
     
    Here is the evidence on the pictures below about the difference in sound on the spectrograms.
    As you can probably notice, that on Windows 10 samples are more identical to the original, rather than on Windows 7.
     
    Used materials in this tests


     
    Source sound


    Windows 10 on Realtek


    Windows 10 on Creative G1


    Windows 7 on Realtek


    Windows 7 on Creative G1


     
    The peculiarity of this behavior in terms of sound in Windows 7 was caused by the introduction of DRM at the development stage of Windows Vista, which is also easily confirmed by reading the development literature.
     
    To carry out this test, recording through the line input via the built-in sound card with the help of Audacity was used and then the results were transferred to the schedule through the Spek.
    The conditions were the same (Volume 80% output and input) and the same player Foobar2000 on default settings (no asio/openal and ks with wasapi exclusive for output) was used.
     
    For very talented people, I note that the sound system has remained the same since Windows Vista, but has been significantly reworked: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/windows-10-has-better-sound-quality-than-windows-7-on-my-computer-not-necessarily-yours.789224/
    Especially it is important for the old and not-so games that use DirectSound.
    And for those who like to listen to music, and especially in a high quality, because windose 10 does not force you to use all sorts of workarounds crutches mentioned above.
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    Funkerwolf got a reaction from Blackbird in Sound and Windows 10   
    Hello everyone, I would like to clarify why my editing in the article on sound is constantly canceled?
    https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Glossary:Sound
     
     
     
     
    Here is the evidence on the pictures below about the difference in sound on the spectrograms.
    As you can probably notice, that on Windows 10 samples are more identical to the original, rather than on Windows 7.
     
    Used materials in this tests


     
    Source sound


    Windows 10 on Realtek


    Windows 10 on Creative G1


    Windows 7 on Realtek


    Windows 7 on Creative G1


     
    The peculiarity of this behavior in terms of sound in Windows 7 was caused by the introduction of DRM at the development stage of Windows Vista, which is also easily confirmed by reading the development literature.
     
    To carry out this test, recording through the line input via the built-in sound card with the help of Audacity was used and then the results were transferred to the schedule through the Spek.
    The conditions were the same (Volume 80% output and input) and the same player Foobar2000 on default settings (no asio/openal and ks with wasapi exclusive for output) was used.
     
    For very talented people, I note that the sound system has remained the same since Windows Vista, but has been significantly reworked: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/windows-10-has-better-sound-quality-than-windows-7-on-my-computer-not-necessarily-yours.789224/
    Especially it is important for the old and not-so games that use DirectSound.
    And for those who like to listen to music, and especially in a high quality, because windose 10 does not force you to use all sorts of workarounds crutches mentioned above.
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