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You should reread this, because you clearly have misunderstood. Self-minization on lost focus is not the same as alt-tabbing. You have the tools to provide this information and are refusing to do so. Regardless, the entire point of this thread is you are intentionally omitting mandatory troubleshooting information. We have established this is not default Borderless Window behavior. This is the exact troubleshooting information people come to PCGW for. You are intentionally making your site useless for troubleshooting and setup. Very concerning response.

>People who use the wiki expect different things, and what you might expect from one feature is not the same expectations others has. As I mentioned earlier on PCGW the only thing that matters when it comes to the "Borderless fullscreen windowed" parameter is if it can be played in a borderless maximized window -- nothing else. I don't understand how this isn't contradictory. I've raised an issue where a supposed "borderless windowed" mode is deficient in numerous respects -- which were already articulated (self-minimize on focus lost -- not standard borderless window behavior and having nothing to do with alt-tabbing). I've also articulated that i went to this page to troubleshoot the deficient borderless windowed mode, which your page claims works flawlessly without any issues. I have demonstrated issues quite plainly, and I think your view here is overly myopic. Certainly there must be some limit to where you would make a note that the mode is not functional. What if a program "supports" borderless windowed mode, but crashes every time focus is lost? You're telling me that's not noteworthy on PCGW? What if a program "supports" borderless windowed mode yet has a 0.96 opacity solid black overlay when enabled? Again, there must be reasonable limits for where we can agree you aren't meeting basic needs as a wiki. This is certainly one such case.

With all due respect, this does not function as borderless window and you're being rather indirect with my concerns. Is it not your expectation that people should be using PCGW to help setup and troubleshoot issues with software? If so, it should be obvious that categorizing a defective borderless window mode that mimics FSE as a proper borderless window mode is unhelpful. When it is so deficient as to not serve its function, this is the exact situation your wiki exists to prevent. It's also worth noting that you have a comment section where this information should should be included by any reasonable standard.

If there's something that needs to be done, please let me know. But it's been another 10 days and the PCGW entry for Nobody Saves the World still incorrectly lists Borderless Window support. For the reasons discussed here, it should be amended to "unsupported" since there is no functional borderless window mode. Thanks

The only edit/discussion I tried to make was as described, and I was prevented from sending it in on this account. Regardless, I have just confirmed once more that "fullscreen" is not borderless window mode. The window will self-minimize whenever anything else is clicked which is not how borderless window mode works. If you are calling this borderless window mode, it should be made clear it is not a functional version of borderless window mode. It is mimicing exclusive fullscreen and as such does not support true borderless window mode.

I was looking at setting up "Nobody Saves the World" today, and PCGW claims it supports borderless windowed mode. It does not. I attempted to submit this information as an edit in various places in the discussion page, but this account doesn't have permission to do so. I'm not really sure how you expect people to contribute to the wiki and correct misinformation such as this. Regardless, here is the reposted original comment: <!-- Explain your suggested changes below or link to a sandbox page where the changes are implemented. --> I have directly confirmed just now that borderless window mode is NOT supported. The game has 3 support options: Window (standard window mode), fullscreen (standard fullscreen exclusive mode at the default detected values for the output monitor), and "custom" which is a fullscreen exclusive mode at a specific user-selected resolution/refresh rate. There is NO borderless window support. The game requires 3rd party software for borderless window output (e.g. Windowed Borderless Gaming, etc) <!-- Write your request ABOVE this line and do not remove the text below. --> {{Edit request}}