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In terms of linking to other game websites - my preference for the health of PCGamingWiki project, is to have mutual linking with other sites. This has immense SEO benefits. For example we have a system for WSGF-PCGamingWiki article links, and also SteamDB and IsThereAnyDeal etc. MobyGames seems like a good place to link to - but before we do anything I'd like to get in touch with the admin and see if there's anything we can do as a partnership. Does anyone have the contact details for the current admin? Best to get in touch via.. Discord, or Twitter?

This project has been resurrected with renewed access to brand new GOG shared account and progress is also linked to the new Assignments system. Message me on Discord if you would like details on how to access this account.

Unfortunately a large batch of screenshots were corrupted a long time ago, and backups have been overwritten. We have spent a long time trying to figure out what went wrong but in the end, the original files are lost and need to be recreated sadly. Some more detail here: https://trello.com/c/hxagMLOA/94-some-old-images-are-corrupted We will be making a project and having people recreate/resubmit screenshots. Our future systems will be more robust.

Great! Thanks Garrett, great work.

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@Expack3 Thanks for your feedback, I am open to suggestions for codifying 'Essential' mods. For example Kotor 2 - the Restored Content Mod is 'essential' - you would be 'missing out' if you didn't install it. Yet we also have this list of Steam graphical mods - but most of these I would call non-essential. The only one I think is 'important' is the quality of life fix to make the game appear correct for widescreen - the Widescreen UI fix Any suggestions on how to codify this?

Thanks for input all - I believe from the Discord discussion there is a huge amount of difficulty with binding 'Modes' with actual tables - so I think we will drop this idea and focus on the Modes and Genres themselves. There's been some input from MobyGames and WSGF and I think I will spend some time suggesting a structure from the top - and then we can discuss the individual merits and definitions more clearly.

Individual reviewers might write reviews with a political stance, however aggregators like Metacritic and Opencritic normally contain a balance of different opinions. PCGamingWiki is politically neutral, however this shouldn't stop us from balancing this with new features and to make a better resource for PC gamers. For example Wikipedia PC game articles including a Reception section citing reviews or review aggregators doesn't necessarily compromise its neutrality. Users can choose to ignore review scores on this website if necessary. I am open to Metacritic, OpenCritic and any others. However Metacritic has a lot of old games where OpenCritic doesn't. I am also open to Steam reviews however the issue becomes how to keep these up to date. It also may stabilise due to changes being made to the Steam review system: https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/valve-takes-steps-against-steam-review-bombs/

For anyone who is following, we are collating Modes and Genres in this page and will eventually introduce definitions: https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_game_modes_and_genres

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In the beginning, PCGamingWiki shied away from including classification of games because we were focused only on fixes - we weren't interested if a game was a 'third person shooter' or a 'first person shooter' - we just wanted FOV fixes, widescreen fixes, etc. However I think things could be improved - taking a queue from Wikipedia: Modes: Firstly with the way the tables work, some genres don't require 'FOV' fixes for example 2D games. Or an 90s adventure game doesn't need an 'Inverted Y-Axis' option etc. A mode property would allow us to restrict certain tables so that this makes more sense. This would include things like: VR, 2D, 3D, 1st person, 3rd person, touchscreen, VR etc. Furthermore, in the future we could use this to categorise other features like microtransactions, lootboxes etc. Genres: Genres are a great way of listing games. We could make lists of Puzzle games on Uplay, RPGs fan translated into Russian, etc. How great would it be to see all the Local co-op games that are 2D rather than 3D (my wife can't play 3D games as she gets motion sick!). In terms of implementation, this could sit in the proposed Overview section as well as the Infobox itself.

Reviews are a very important part of 'discovery' of what game to play. How much more useful would our lists be if we could filter or sort by Metacritic score? Metacritic includes the Critic score which tends to be fairly static after release. There is also the User Score which tends to fluctuate a lot, even years after release, or is subject to review bombing. I would be happy to include both. Potentially, Metacritic scores would sit inside the Infobox, with a link directly to the relevant Metacritic page. The values themselves could be gleaned from Wikidata, or another automated method, or could be entered manually. I am also open to alternative review aggregators and am open to suggestions.

This is interesting - I don't see why we couldn't do this, we could also have a counter to show how many days a game is/was on Early Access before being released. It's a good indicator of the development cycle of a game e.g. Star Citizen.

Proposal: Restructure articles with 'Overview' to replace Key Points, Essential Improvements, General Information Key points was designed to be a way to add statements that would be quantitatively verifiable and individually moderated easily. It occupies the top of the article and is the first thing visitors read when viewing an article - it implies that this is the headline top information. However it currently suffers from an issue where people fill out lines for the sake of having a line, and includes information that is far from ‘key’ eg {{++}} Game uses 7.1 audio. Or to include {{--}} negative points just to 'balance' out the top of the article, where it is not warranted. Secondly I would like to push PCGW to contain more Wikipedia-like information that is qualitative, with a focus on technical and quality of life information. Back in 2012, I was afraid we wouldn’t have the policies and manpower to correctly moderate large blocks of text. However I think we are in a good position to do this now with a healthy active moderation team. This would also vastly improve its 'SEO' quality and push PCGamingWiki articles from average slot of 11th space on Google to possibly the front page. This will attract visitors and editors and make the entire site more useful. Here's a draft General section example (no 2nd level header), that would go at the top of the page: General information - instead of a long rambling list of everything, we move this under the Infobox. Rename to "Support Resources". Remove things like wikis, official websites - this section should be for things like 'authoritative threads', forums, etc. where users can expect to find answers to technical questions about the game.

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Marking this topic as completed thanks to Aemony's hard work! Tables now looking very tidy.

Yes this is very interesting.. this could work especially if we have more subscription services come about - however it is very unlikely that one game would appear in multiple services at the moment. To be more concise, ideally the info should be in the 'Notes' field of the Windows Store row - is this impossible? Same with Origin.

Rumour is that Xbox games will have a single binary that runs on Xbox/PC, making this property even more important:

Yes this makes sense to put as a Windows Store property. Not sure about the UWP as a separate platform.

Most hosts are acceptable as long as the content is verified as not containing viruses/malware. I have no qualms with uploading demos to PCGW as you have been doing, we are not currently hitting any practical space limits.

Do you have fast startup enabled/disabled? Try toggling it. I would personally just buy a new SSD and install fresh Windows on it to check whether there's a hardware issue as well.

Xbox Game Pass - this is the subscription service for Xbox One + PC. PC games are currently limited but is going to grow with plenty of exclusives including the first official release of a Halo FPS since Halo 2 - Halo: Infinity. It would be helpful to have a property so that we can build a proper list (instead of this manual one: https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_games_on_Xbox_Game_Pass) Xbox Play Anywhere - also a property to show cross-platform Xbox purchases - so that we can standardise this notes field. This isn't 100% identical to the Windows Store property, but will have a lot of overlap. Thoughts - advantages/disadvantages?